Safety problem

[tnscooter]

I have had my P-64 about 6 months now and put about 300 rounds of brown bear 95 gr thru it, I tried some corbon 95Gr JHP and when shooting sometimes it would trip the safety on, and then the safety would move to on during shooting the brown bear periodicaly also. I have soaked the pistol in paint thinner, cleaned, and oiled it. Is there anything else I should do? or look for? before I try shooting again. Thanks in advance, Scott

[normsutton]

tnscooter


go here and see if this helps
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NORM

[tnscooter]

Hi Norm, I got bored and figured out how to take the safety mechanism apart and got it back together, almost lost the firing pin, took longer to find it than anything else It appears my plunger is also flattened. I did a search on the forum before posting and not sure why but came up blank and while roaming around here I found this thread on the safety

viewtopic.php?t=1581

I will try grinding the plunger first with my dremel, but if it doesnt work the way it should do you know of any other place that sells the parts, the website on the other thread doesnt have the plungers in stock. thanks Scott

[normsutton]

Scott
you can make one from a nail

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NORM

[tnscooter]

I grinded the plunger today and it seems to snap in place pretty good but not sure if it is right yet. When in the safety on position (cant shot) it is very tight almost to tight but when in the on position it is kind of light still, I believe my plunger is good but on the safety cylinder where the eye is is a bit worn or rounded on the edge. I dont have a tool to fit the eye for the dremel yet but was thinking about maybe taking a drill to it and widening it slightly. I will try and shot it first to see how it does, have been missing carrying it but I cant trust it till I put a few hundred thru it again. Any ideas of a dremel bit or other ? Thanks, Scott

[tnscooter]

I finally got to shoot and at first not so good, the second shot it tripped the safety, then shot about 50 and was good but I lost the nut to the grips so I found another nut at the hardware store, cleaned it and went back to put another 150 thru it with no problems except the nut loosening, have tried some medium threadlocker , the nut is not an easy item to find. Maybe after another trip to the range and another 150 I will carry again, am real grateful I didnt lose the bolt.

[kragluver]

I worked on the safety of a friend's P64 a while back. His had the same problem that you described above.

There are three things to look for - the shape of the plunger tip, the plunger spring stiffness and the detents in the barrel of the safety itself. On my friend's pistol, the detents were worn. I used the smallest cutter head on my Dremel and very carefully cleaned up the detents. Also, I reshaped the plunger head. What I learned was even small changes to the plunger head or detent shape could make the safety far too easy to engage/disengage or next to impossible to engage (I had to use a plastic mallet to move the safety during a few of my trials!). After trial and error, I was able to fine-tune the shape of the plunger head and slightly strengthen the spring stiffness by yielding the spring just a touch. The safety has functioned flawlessly ever since. The key is, go slowly and carefully. Don't get too carried away with the Dremel tool.

[fritzhund]

Gentlemen,

I would like to suggest crocus cloth and graphite. I have been using both on P-64 safety mechanisms for years and swear by the stuff. Clean and smooth the barrel of the safety with crocus cloth and when reinstalling everything use a small amount of graphite.

*This is assuming that your pins and springs are in good shape*

There are some old posts of mine on the board about this but you will have to dig a little to find them. Try crocus cloth for a search and you will probably be able to find them.

Fritzhund