returned to dealer

derghost · Post by **derghost** » April 7th, 2007, 7:35 pm

After 150 rounds, my new P64 failed to go into battery. I drove to the gun shop and the smith did some polishing and filing. He said if the problem continues, I should bring the gun back and they will ship it back. Well, I returned to the range and the gun is not happy. The slide locked itself into the open position. The gun will be shipped next week. I hope this is an just an anomaly. I was using Silver Bear ammo.

Post by **normsutton** » April 7th, 2007, 8:35 pm

derghost

After you got the P-64 the first time did you completely clean all the Cosmolin out of the gun before you started shooting it (if you didn't that's a problem
if the gun smith filed on anything ( that's a problem
if you ever put the gun back together probably put the recoil spring backwards (that's that's a problem
and that reason its lock back or it was filed on
why didn't you ask someone on this forum about this gun other than flat grips
there are very few gun smiths that know any thing about this gun , other than the members of this forum

sorry if I seem harsh
but must problem can be salve by the members here

NORM

grayfox · Post by **grayfox** » April 7th, 2007, 10:05 pm

One of my p-64s would lock back, untill papabear & Norm advised me about the cleaning. When I got it , it was so clean that I thought it was ok. Boy was I wrong. After a soaking and several cleanings, I have never had that problem on any of my p-64s.
Good luck.

derghost · Post by **derghost** » April 7th, 2007, 10:17 pm

I came to this forum hoping to find a friendly and helpful community, and until this evening, I had thought I found such a place. I was upset about the functioning of my gun, and thought that I would ask about it here (seeing as I had a good experience with my question about grips). The first response that I received comes off, to me at least, as if it was not trying to be helpful. But rather, spiteful jabs at various things myself or others might have done wrong, always assuming the worst of me. Norm, maybe I took the post the wrong way, but the broken English and improper punctuation makes your post difficult to read and take seriously. As it is, the post makes it seem like you never intended to help, but simply wanted to vent some anger on a new member.

I hope that the previous response is not representative of this forum. From the replies to my earlier posts, I do not believe that is the case. In the future, I will be more hesitant to post questions, making sure that they are worth your time.

Grayfox, thank you for the civil and helpful response.

nbender · Post by **nbender** » April 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

"Norm, maybe I took the post the wrong way ..."

Yes, you did.

Norm will help anyone with these pistols, to the extent of asking for your phone number and calling you and walking you through a process. Please review some of his previous posts here, and you'll make progress without posting overly-sensitive whining.

Now, I hope that didn't seem too harsh. Norm's right - a gunsmith who files on a P-64 and then says he's going to send it back - send it back to whom? Would anyone take it back? There are ways to fix these pistols. Norm's helpful advice is one place to start.

duggi60 · Post by **duggi60** » April 8th, 2007, 12:10 am

Norm is a great source of help & info, a true forum member who
has the best intentions along with real solutions if someone's
P 64 is not operating right.

benriquez · Post by **benriquez** » April 8th, 2007, 3:25 am

wait, if you put the recoil spring on backwards the p-64 will have problems? how can you tell the difference between ends?

Post by **normsutton** » April 8th, 2007, 6:32 am

derghost
you think my punctuation is bad , you haven't to seen my hand writing and think god we have spell check (LOL)

Sorry for being so harsh with you

if I can help I will
my email address is NORMSUTTON@AOL.COM
MY PHONE # 863 607 4777

thanks guys

NORM

Post by **normsutton** » April 8th, 2007, 6:35 am

benriquez
yes the small end of the spring go on the barrel first

NORM

redfestiva · Post by **redfestiva** » April 8th, 2007, 7:55 am

you would'nt think it would make such a difference but yes as a new P- 64 owner I put my recoil on backwards and it locked to the breach position like I had welded it in place. It was like that for 2 days untill Normsutton gave me tips on freeing it up.

Post by **papabear** » April 8th, 2007, 8:37 am

I came to this forum hoping to find a friendly and helpful community, and until this evening, I had thought I found such a place. I was upset about the functioning of my gun, and thought that I would ask about it here (seeing as I had a good experience with my question about grips). The first response that I received comes off, to me at least, as if it was not trying to be helpful. But rather, spiteful jabs at various things myself or others might have done wrong, always assuming the worst of me. Norm, maybe I took the post the wrong way, but the broken English and improper punctuation makes your post difficult to read and take seriously. As it is, the post makes it seem like you never intended to help, but simply wanted to vent some anger on a new member.

I hope that the previous response is not representative of this forum. From the replies to my earlier posts, I do not believe that is the case. In the future, I will be more hesitant to post questions, making sure that they are worth your time.

Grayfox, thank you for the civil and helpful response.

derghost,

First, I would like to welcome you aboard as a new member and hope that this experience has not soiled you with our P-64 board, and I would hope you will continue to keep coming back to not only learn more about us and the P-64, but to share your experiences with us as well so we can learn from them too.

Second, I'm sorry your experience with us went so badly for you, however, Norm is one of the nicest, most helpful, patient, willing to go way out of his way to help all, and one of the most knowledgeable members on this board. With the typed word it is difficult sometimes to get the true meaning of what has been typed. I can assure you Norm in no way meant to be "spiteful or assuming" he has offered many on this board precise and accurate info on how to solve their problems with patients and understanding. By him referring to completely cleaning the gun in no way was a "jab" at you or anyone else, it is simply a fact of life with the P-64, period, and so many here when they first get the P-64 fail to properly clean the P-64, and quite some time ago I was one of the too, but with the help found here I simply follow instructions and all my problems were solved. We all have different opinions, and are free to express them here, we try to live and let live and agree to disagree sometimes, just as your post indicates your displeasure with Norm, that is your right to do so, however, it is also my right to let you know how I feel and as do many others on this board about Norm. I believe Norm apologized to you in a manly manner, even though IMHO he didn't say anything wrong, however, you felt the he did, nonetheless, he apologized just the same, that should tell you something about him and his wiliness to help others.

Best Regards,

Papabear

derghost · Post by **derghost** » April 8th, 2007, 9:01 am

I would like to thank everyone for the clarification and concern. I, in no way, doubted the accuracy of his response. I felt the harshness was not called for in this matter. I agree with Papabear concerning the limitations of the typed word. Norm's last response certainly confirmed
why he is held in high regard at the forum. That was a class act. Thank you all.

grayfox · Post by **grayfox** » April 8th, 2007, 9:12 am

Welcome to the P-64 family!!!

anjdrifter · Post by **anjdrifter** » April 8th, 2007, 3:54 pm

welcome .. sometimes when we are frustrated with something we might get a little tense... glad you see what a great guy is norm... if we had chimmeys here you would see puffs of white smoke.... again welcome..

himmel · Post by **himmel** » April 8th, 2007, 4:27 pm

There are lots of class acts, hereabouts, stick around and you'll find out...

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