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I carry my CZAK "me too, me three, and me four"...decocked, safety off, chambered round--my other two "carry guns" have "push down" safeties, I don't want to get confused and try to push the P-64 safety down too..
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gunneyrabbit
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I have a super light trigger so I carry fully loaded with the safety on. 
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I have been carrying with one in the tube and safety off for a couple weeks now. today, i was showing a co-worker who is interested in a CC pistol and dropped the mag and dumped the round out of the tube. the primer of the one in the tube has 2 indentions on it. not deep, like a misfire, but more like the FP resting on it? seems a bit scary. i know it should be safe, but i'm a little worried now. what do you guys think?
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Mine does that to, it's probably not a problem (I've done a little testing) but I still let the hammer down easy when I drop it with the de-cocker
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barnett3006
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724wd,
Assuming that your gun fires perfectly fine otherwise (no slam fires or anything), it is possible that your firing pin spring is sprung, broken or missing; or that there is cosmoline and dirt in the FP channel that is gumming up the spring in a compressed position. It would be a good idea to take your slide apart (remove the safety and firing pin) and give it a good thorough cleaning and inspection. Firing pin springs come with replacement recoil springs from Wolff (http://gunsprings.com/resources/welcomenof.html) and I think you can get just the FP spring if thats all you want.
There is a disassembly/reassembly manual on the board that was made by TTH but I could not get it to open for some reason.
There is another possibility aswell:
The P64 has a rebounding hammer, this keeps the hammer from resting on the firing pin when the hammer is in its down (not cocked) position and helps to prevent accidental discharges. The rebounding hammer is an "automatic half-cock" so if the internals of your gun (mainly the hammer and sear in this case) are gummed up with dirt and cosmo or the "half-cock" notch itself is worn the the rebounding hammer will no longer...um...rebound and it will then rest on or knock into the firing pin
To test to see if your rebounding hammer is working right, first: unload and make sure your unloaded. 2nd: with the slide forward, hammer down, safety off and your finger off the trigger, press on the hammer spur as if you were trying to push the hammer into the chamber. take note as to how far the hammer moves, as it should not move at all. 3rd: now, dry fire your gun once without releasing the trigger. While holding the trigger back and with the hammer down, press on the hammer spur again; the hammer should move forward approximately an 1/8th of an inch (possibly a little more). 4th: Release the trigger and push on the hammer again, it should not move forward.
If the hammer moves any differently than how stated above then your gun is gummed up badly or the working hammer parts are worn and unsafe. It is unlikely, however, that the parts are worn like that and it is most likely from 30 years worth of dirt and cosmoline build up on the insides that just need to be cleaned.
A good way to clean the insides of your gun is to (always unload first) field strip and remove the grip panels. Then soak the frame in kerosene or acetone (some kind of solvent) for awhile and then spray it out with carborator cleaner and then compressed air (wear eye protection!!!), let it dry then lubricate all of the moving/working parts with a quality gun oil or grease. After proper lubing and reassembly, perform the rebounding hammer test again.
A third possibility:
Your gun was pieced together or repaired and an improper length firing pin was installed. If this is the case, we will need the year yours was made and the length of your firing pin. That way someone with the same year can compare their firing pin length to yours. Then you could order another firing pin from www.tnguns.com.
hope this helps.
Marc
Assuming that your gun fires perfectly fine otherwise (no slam fires or anything), it is possible that your firing pin spring is sprung, broken or missing; or that there is cosmoline and dirt in the FP channel that is gumming up the spring in a compressed position. It would be a good idea to take your slide apart (remove the safety and firing pin) and give it a good thorough cleaning and inspection. Firing pin springs come with replacement recoil springs from Wolff (http://gunsprings.com/resources/welcomenof.html) and I think you can get just the FP spring if thats all you want.
There is a disassembly/reassembly manual on the board that was made by TTH but I could not get it to open for some reason.
There is another possibility aswell:
The P64 has a rebounding hammer, this keeps the hammer from resting on the firing pin when the hammer is in its down (not cocked) position and helps to prevent accidental discharges. The rebounding hammer is an "automatic half-cock" so if the internals of your gun (mainly the hammer and sear in this case) are gummed up with dirt and cosmo or the "half-cock" notch itself is worn the the rebounding hammer will no longer...um...rebound and it will then rest on or knock into the firing pin
To test to see if your rebounding hammer is working right, first: unload and make sure your unloaded. 2nd: with the slide forward, hammer down, safety off and your finger off the trigger, press on the hammer spur as if you were trying to push the hammer into the chamber. take note as to how far the hammer moves, as it should not move at all. 3rd: now, dry fire your gun once without releasing the trigger. While holding the trigger back and with the hammer down, press on the hammer spur again; the hammer should move forward approximately an 1/8th of an inch (possibly a little more). 4th: Release the trigger and push on the hammer again, it should not move forward.
If the hammer moves any differently than how stated above then your gun is gummed up badly or the working hammer parts are worn and unsafe. It is unlikely, however, that the parts are worn like that and it is most likely from 30 years worth of dirt and cosmoline build up on the insides that just need to be cleaned.
A good way to clean the insides of your gun is to (always unload first) field strip and remove the grip panels. Then soak the frame in kerosene or acetone (some kind of solvent) for awhile and then spray it out with carborator cleaner and then compressed air (wear eye protection!!!), let it dry then lubricate all of the moving/working parts with a quality gun oil or grease. After proper lubing and reassembly, perform the rebounding hammer test again.
A third possibility:
Your gun was pieced together or repaired and an improper length firing pin was installed. If this is the case, we will need the year yours was made and the length of your firing pin. That way someone with the same year can compare their firing pin length to yours. Then you could order another firing pin from www.tnguns.com.
hope this helps.
Marc
Last edited by barnett3006 on January 8th, 2008, 2:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Thanks Marc. I'll do some digging to see what's up. the gun fires fine (other than the snappy recoil! =) and appears brand new/all matching. I bought it from SOG probably 2 years ago before they went up in price. It's a 1974 Triangle hammer. nice little pistol! I did a fairly thorough clean when i got it, but may have missed something. Thanks again.
heath
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I carry with one in the tube safety on. All my handguns safety on, It is not a major project to move the safety and I practice that movement. Muscle memory !!!