Wolf ammo

trent · Post by **trent** » October 10th, 2007, 11:55 am

I opened a box of wolf 100grain at a store today and noticed that they have redesigned their bullet into a kinda round nose conehead hybrid that actually feeds through my cz82, what I take from this is that the wolf company is taking advice from their customers, so we may eventually be able to get wolf ammo that has weeded out the problems if letters are sent to the company to let them know what problems are being encountered.

Heck it never hurts to ask

Post by **normsutton** » October 10th, 2007, 12:24 pm

Trent

thats a joke right

NORM

trent · Post by **trent** » October 10th, 2007, 3:50 pm

hey it was just an observation. now I don't advocate using the ammo because I have heard of problems encountered but I personally have had 0 problems for years in 7.62x39 .30 carbine and 9x18 (9x18 in months not years) If it wasn't the only ammo available for a reasonable price in my area I probably wouldn't give it a second look, and now that all gunshows in my area have jacked up the 9x18 prices to very unreasonable amounts, aside from buying online (which I do) it leaves the lowly 9x18 shooter in my area with few options. I have suggested to the dealers that going with other makers may be a wise idea it hasn't changed anything. so in our area we have to make due or for the web savvy, buy online

carguy · Post by **carguy** » October 10th, 2007, 3:53 pm

I've never shot it and on advice from more than a few I avoid it like the plague.

But I though WOLF always hadthat odd conical shaped bullet? ???

trent · Post by **trent** » October 10th, 2007, 4:06 pm

it did, this is less of a conical, more oval at the base

nbender · Post by **nbender** » October 10th, 2007, 4:14 pm

Trent: You may have found some Wolf that i haven't seen. The most recent of their stuff that I know about is the 95-grain Military Classic. Before that they made 100 and 109-grain coneheads. Way before that, they had a round-nose 100-grain 9x18 on a box marked "bi-metal".

To clarify what you found, could you describe the box, the headstamp, and maybe can you even take a picture?

Thanks

trent · Post by **trent** » October 10th, 2007, 5:13 pm

yea, once I find the camera, It may be tonight or tomorrow morning before I can get it, This as I understand it is a new shipment to my dealer , it also seems to have a different primer sealer, it's colored a dark purple instead of the red that is normally on wolfs (wolves?)

garry · Post by **garry** » October 11th, 2007, 1:38 pm

My neighbor gave me these the other day and they all shot fine . I didn't save any bullets or cases from them tho. The bullet is shaped more like a 9mm luger bullet, kind of like a football at the ogive,but a noticeable "edge" at the case mouth.
Accuracy was , well, ...wolf-ish. I measured the OAL of each bullet and the tolerances were suprisingly tight ! I had three groups of measured bullets : OAL= 24.7/24.8/24.9 with the majority being 30 cartridges measuring 24.8mm ,10 measured at 24.7,and 10 at 24.9mm.
They all fed fine and i noticed that the 24.9mm bullets shot the tightest "group" if you call 8"@25yds "tight". Overall impression- they were free and worth every penny. If that is too ambiguous, I thought they were okay but I reload so they were "just something to try". If I could find them at $5.95 a box I might pick up a couple hundred for blasting stuff with so I could save my reloads for more "important" shooting. G

trent · Post by **trent** » October 11th, 2007, 4:21 pm

ok, I wanted to keep the picture big so I'm linking you guys to it, there are 3 rounds (From the left) Original 100g wolf cone head, new wolf semi cone head, and a Chinese round for comparison)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/ ... 010086.jpg

nbender · Post by **nbender** » October 11th, 2007, 4:46 pm

Thanks Trent! now ... could you photograph the box? Or is it the same box Garry posted? It sort of looks copper-coated like Garry's box describes.

But if it's a new modern round, Garry how did your neighbor buy it for $5.95?

I have to get home and dig out my old Wolf ...

nbender · Post by **nbender** » October 11th, 2007, 4:53 pm

Here are photos of the round and the box from Wolf's website:

I see Wolf doesn't continue to list the 120-grain HP.

carguy · Post by **carguy** » October 11th, 2007, 7:50 pm

Is it that way on purpose or just more qualkity control issues, ha, ha!

nbender · Post by **nbender** » October 11th, 2007, 10:08 pm

I shouldn't reply from my desk, without my ammo near me.

That looks like the standard 100-grain round Wolf has dealt for some time, hence the $5.95/box price that Garry posted.

I was once asked about a very early Wolf 9x18 round with a round nose instead of a conical (conehead) nose so I took this photo:

The colors aren't great in the photograph, but you may see that the Wolf 109-grain is green colored and the 100-grain is gray colored.

Anyway, when I think there's a new 9x18 round available my pulse rises like Papabear's over a mint MN 91/59 (the best analogy I could come up with).

This is not a new round.

trent · Post by **trent** » October 12th, 2007, 7:35 am

didn't mean to get your hopes up, but it does feed alot smoother than it did before the redesign, In looking at the "cone heads" They seem like they would penetrate better than standard round nosed bullets, have you found this to be accurate?

nbender · Post by **nbender** » October 12th, 2007, 8:35 am

That I haven't tested. Never looked much at 9x18 FMJ penetration testing - I don't think there is any make I know of that won't penetrate beyond what you'd want.

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