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one final thought if my old memory serves me correctly the detonics pocket 9 was a direct copy of the sirkis and was well thought of

thanks for the correct spelling sirkis, and as i said the 9mm sirkis was one hell of a gun. and like pappabear i'm no gun snob. if i was i'd be carrying a ppk or sig 230/232 rather than a p-64. but the davis/cobra from my understanding have bad reputations

a direct copy of the cat 45 which is a copy of the sirkus a sweet 9mm made in isreal a while back ( 80's) had a cat 45 junk, had a sirkus in 9mm sweet gun afraid of anything made by davis/cobra

slightly bigger than a makarov pm and just a tad lighter i think ? due to a few stamped parts

based on my obsevation in shooting my p-83 yes it's isnt as well made as the p-64 but it's rock solid reliable.

i would tend to agree since the blue book of gun values does list thew special edition seperately than a plain p83

rumor has it about what the cz82 is going for. which is good news for those that want one but bad news for those of us that had to have one when offered by davlar ?(sp) a few yrs back. horror story ... bought one paid about 325 ( special edition) spare numbered mag and wooden presentation box nice o...

is your p83 a eagle version ? i believe those were limited

being the old fart that i am i've been into guns for well over 40 yrs. and have come to the opinion that the p-64 is highly under-rated. as i was sorting out the gun safe i set aside all my 9x18's . 2 "maks" 1 e ger, 1 russ, a polish p83 and p-64 and a cz82 and the feg p63 ? of all of them...