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magazine problems

Posted: May 4th, 2014, 7:56 pm
by cclark75006
I am new to forum and new to P64 ownership. Just cleaned/lubed the gun, opened the 3 mags that came with the gun and cleaned them well. Then out to the range to test. Only one of the three mags worked flawlessly.
Two of the three had a jam on the second round (the round turned sideway and did not chamber the round). I was able to drop the mag and eject the round. Was using Silver Bear ammo bought from SGAmmo, so I think the ammo is not the problem. Anyway I was seeking a bit of help.
1. Is this common?
2. Should I discard the two mags which did not run and buy new mags?
3. Where should I go to buy (online) magazines that might be dependable?

Thanks for any assistance.
Otherwise the gun did great on the one mag that ran perfect.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 4th, 2014, 9:38 pm
by snailman153624
I'd start by visually inspecting them for bends and wear. If the lips are bent from being dropped, for example, you might be able to fix them with some basic hand tools.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 5th, 2014, 9:23 am
by cclark75006
ok, thanks for the suggestion. Close visual inspection did not reveal any bends, wear, dents or dings in the two questionable mags.

I will perhaps reclean and try again. After re-cleaning, should I use a light coating of gun oil or rim oil inside the mag?
Any idea for the best place to buy dependable mags?

thanks

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 5th, 2014, 9:39 am
by Curly1
Take a look at the spring in the mag that works and make sure the other 2 mag springs were oriented the same when you reassembled them after cleaning.

I have had problems with feeding in other mags if the springs are in backwards.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 5th, 2014, 10:45 am
by cclark75006
Thanks , I will check that tonight and let you know what I find.

Any source of reliable factory mags. My P64 made in 1977 if that makes a difference.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 5th, 2014, 8:35 pm
by snailman153624
gunbroker and eBay seem to turn them up every now and then. There are also a handful of on-line dealers that sell them, such as SOG.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 6th, 2014, 1:03 pm
by cclark75006
Checked the springs in the two non functioning mags, they were oriented the same as the one functioning mag.

Recleaned and will test again later in week.

Re: magazine problems (up date)

Posted: May 11th, 2014, 3:21 pm
by cclark75006
Bought two mags from SOG (thanks for the referral to Snailman) Received them quick, cleaned them up and out to the range. Happy to report the two mags ran perfect so the problem was two of my original mags. :D

Thanks for the suggestions and support.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 12th, 2014, 10:28 am
by Curly1
Good news, I wonder if the mags you have problems with are aftermarket.

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 12th, 2014, 11:01 am
by cclark75006
The two original mags which would not run, look to be old surplus original, not after market. They have the serial numbers electro penciled on them...they look no different from the onces that work fine. It's odd. I am going to stretch the mag springs and try them one more time before I give up on them. But I now have three working mags and that was the goal. I am a Happy Camper now. :)

Curtis

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 13th, 2014, 9:50 am
by Curly1
Good idea on stretching ths springs, if they work then you can order new springs.

Also you can try a different brand of ammo.

You can never have enough ammo :)

Re: magazine problems

Posted: May 13th, 2014, 9:11 pm
by snailman153624
Curly1 wrote:Good news, I wonder if the mags you have problems with are aftermarket.
As low quality as the material is in the aftermarket mags, they are actually cut with precision and work very reliably. My only gripe is the metal is not as sturdy as the factory originals, and you can actually see bullet shaped dents from the inertia of the bullets as they slam into the mag during recoil. The lips also bend easily. Nevertheless, they do function flawlessly. I use them only at the range, and figure I have a spare spring, floor plate, etc.

Re: magazine problems (springs)

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 10:26 am
by cclark75006
any one know the best place for a new magazine spring. I found on wolf the following,
http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?pag ... D=1&mID=50 but am confused as if that spring is for the P 64? any ideas for new mag springs?

Re: magazine problems (springs)

Posted: May 23rd, 2014, 8:41 pm
by Hurryin' Hoosier
cclark75006 wrote:any one know the best place for a new magazine spring. I found on wolf the following,
http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?pag ... D=1&mID=50 but am confused as if that spring is for the P 64? any ideas for new mag springs?
Nope. Those are for a 1935. Wolff doesn't carry any magazine springs for the P-64. I'd check "gunbroker". There's a guy in Warsaw who has a gazillion parts for P-64s.