P-64 not chambering
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P-64 not chambering
Hey guys been a while since I have been on. Here are a couple of pics of how far it is chambering. I fired about 200 rounds through it the other night and with about 20 rounds left it started not wanting to chamber it. So I figured it was dirty I cleaned it and it is still not chambering. Ideas, comments requests for more pics. This is my carry weapon so I need it to work flawlessly which it has up until now.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Try different ammunition.
Put in a stronger hammer spring.
Re-clean the chamber and the feed ramp.
Put the damn toilet seat down!
Put in a stronger hammer spring.
Re-clean the chamber and the feed ramp.
Put the damn toilet seat down!
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Might also check/clean/oil the breech face and make sure that nothing has obstructed the extractor claw. Might also check that the firing pin is fully retracting so that the rear of the cartridge isn't catching on a protruding firing pin.
While I don't think it's likely, this could cause issues similar to what you're seeing. A sticky/protruding firing pin could also cause "slam fires."
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While I don't think it's likely, this could cause issues similar to what you're seeing. A sticky/protruding firing pin could also cause "slam fires."
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Already replaced hammer spring and recoil spring. took the dremel and a soft brush attachment to the feed ramp last night to shine it up. the Firing pin is not protruding had to check but it is not. tried 4 different types of ammo (glazer, wolf silverbear HP, wolf brown bear FMJ, and hornaday HP) all have same results occasionally one will chamber maybe 1 out of ten times. OH and that is the kids bathroom toilet seat stays up!
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Tufrthnails,
Take your mag apart and thoroughly clean the inside, the follower, and stretch the spring out a little. I had that issue with mine and it usually eats whatever I feed it. That follower needs to respond immediately and move freely and, being that it's a blow back design, they get dirty really quickly. I now clean my mag every time I clean my weapon and the problem has not presented itself since. After cleaning, put a couple of drops of whatever oil you use on a cotton ball and use a small screwdriver and push it through. If that doesn't help check to see that the upper lips of your mag(s) aren't bent. Hope that helps.
Bill
Take your mag apart and thoroughly clean the inside, the follower, and stretch the spring out a little. I had that issue with mine and it usually eats whatever I feed it. That follower needs to respond immediately and move freely and, being that it's a blow back design, they get dirty really quickly. I now clean my mag every time I clean my weapon and the problem has not presented itself since. After cleaning, put a couple of drops of whatever oil you use on a cotton ball and use a small screwdriver and push it through. If that doesn't help check to see that the upper lips of your mag(s) aren't bent. Hope that helps.
Bill
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Thanks I will give that a shot I tried all three of my mags but they havn't been broken down and cleaned in quite a while.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
If you jam the slide forward does it chamber (make sure you point in a safe direction)?
Does the slide move freely with the magazine removed?
I'd suspect you have some galling along the breach face and may need to do some light filing.
Does the slide move freely with the magazine removed?
I'd suspect you have some galling along the breach face and may need to do some light filing.
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No it will not chamber without taking the mag out and pulling back slightly then it falls in the to chamber.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
We see this periodically in the shop. Every time it has been a fouled magazine not allowing the follower to track true in the mag body. Previous response was absolutely correct. Take mag apart, clean thoroughly, and apply small amount of oil inside the body.
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I took two of the mags apart and cleaned them. They were VERY dirty, which is bad on me I used to clean all three every couple of times I went to the range. That didn't fix the issue but I sure it helped because they needed it a lot more then I would have thought. so I am uploading pics and lots of them. one mag appears to be bent in ever so slightly on the right corner lip, but neither mag is feeding so I don't think that is causing the issue. This gun has been heavily used I have well over 2000 round through it myself and I bought it used the previous owner filled down the bar for the decocker. but other then that nothing else was done to it that I could tell. I replaced hammer spring and recoil spring. I have a spring for the slide stop but have not replaced it yet.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Could the feed ramp use a little more buffing? Maybe with Flitz?
And, just out of curiosity, what kind of ammo is that?
And, just out of curiosity, what kind of ammo is that?
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Your feed ramp looks messed up in the picture the angle of it is very important. Aside from that it seems your magazines may not be seating or feeding correctly. Perhaps the recoil spring is too heavy. Try propping the mag up (hold it up in place) when at the range see if its not seated properly when firing it. Take a solid look at your mag spring how it buckles and expands it might not be moving the bullets up and into position properly.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
That feed ramp looks like it has a big crack in it, but it's difficult to tell from the pictures.
Re: P-64 not chambering
You have a P64 built in the year 1967. It might be a problem with the mags. The Poles changed the construction of the P64 around 1972 and made the feed lips on the magazines slightly longer which will cause feeding problems if you stick a "new" (post 1972) P64 mag into an "old" (pre 1972) P64. "Old" magazines will cause no problems in a "new" pistol.
Here is a picture i found on the internet for comparison.
Here is a picture i found on the internet for comparison.
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Re: P-64 not chambering
Thanks for the info, Gregory