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P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 19th, 2012, 11:32 pm
by ScottZ
Hi Everyone, So i bought me a 1968 dated Polish p-64 today. Price was right and I had a weak spot for it. I bought some ammo for it and when i pulled the trigger it just did a light strike on the primer. It appears the hammer is not going fully forward, when I pull it back it just goes one click and that is it. Pull trigger and it does a light strike. I took it apart and cleaned up all the years of dirt and grime and put back togther. When I pull back the hammer and pull the trigger I can ride the hammer to where it should go but once i let go of the hammer the weight of the spring seems to pull it back past the first click. I am no expert about these guns and still learning. What does anything think could be wrong where the hammer does not go all the way forward. Any help is really really appreciated
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 8:23 am
by Boston Boy
Have you tried removing and cleaning firing pin and spring! I had same problem with light strikes, so I cleaned up spring and pin, plus changed ammo brands--no more light strikes! Good luck, great little pistol.
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 10:54 am
by Curly1
Welcome to the forum Scott.
+1 a good cleaning if you haven't already and try again, let us know what happens.
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 11:27 am
by ScottZ
Hi guys! I gave it one heck of a cleaning, oiled and put back togther. I was totally impressed by the inner workings of this gun! Still did not fix the issue. It is like the hammer is not at a 90 degree in the decocked position, it is back some. I am unsure what kind of spring was used for the hammer, When i pull the trigger it is only making a little contact with the firing pin, causing it not to indent the primer enough to make it go off. On everyone elses gun, when you pull the hammer back, does it click twice before it is in the firing position? Mine clicks back once and that is it, the hammer is all the way back, but if I ride the hammer full forward it is in the 90 degree position but the hammer spring pressure offsets it
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 11:42 am
by ScottZ
i will also add, trigger pull is very easy, the hammer does not give a good forward throw, more like a doink, internal parts are in good shape, no wear that i see. of course the firing pin strike area and the hammer show wear from being fired. I was really thinking if the spring for the hammer is the wrong type someone messed up or just really weak.
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 4:45 pm
by Boston Boy
If DA trigger pull is easy (should be 25lbs or greater), then go to Wolff Springs and get new springs.
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 5:15 pm
by ScottZ
Placing my order now, from the pics that i have seen this has to be the wrong spring in it, the pull is totally nothing. We shall see! Thanks for the input guys!
Re: P-64 Light strike on Primer /Hammer Issues
Posted: November 20th, 2012, 11:50 pm
by fully machined
"When I pull back the hammer and pull the trigger I can ride the hammer to where it should go but once i let go of the hammer the weight of the spring seems to pull it back past the first click."
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"Mine clicks back once and that is it, the hammer is all the way back, but if I ride the hammer full forward it is in the 90 degree position but the hammer spring pressure offsets it"
Are you describing this?
The installed position of the hammer and strut with spring is a “fixed” position. By fixed, I mean that the spring load is so positioned to the hammer and strut that these parts will remain in that position with HAMMER DOWN. If the sear assembly and disconnector are removed the hammer will still be in the hammer down position, unaffected, by these parts removed. This is the hammers “at rest” position. Another way of saying it would be this is the hammers installed position center. This is why you can push the hammer forwards from the hammer down position just a little bit and it returns. Pull the hammer back and it returns. The hammer notch has to engage the sear security tooth to stop forward movement of the hammer. Push the disconnector down, moving the sear out of engagement, and you can push the hammer forward until it contacts the sear plunger, way forward of normal travel, and then it will spring back to rest. Sear tooth is out of the picture here doing this. The hammer has to rotate slightly forward, from the at rest position, for the hammers’ first notch, security tooth, to make contact with the sear’s tooth.
Take a look at your hammer strut and make sure the top ears are ok.
Check the sear plunger to see if it is installed correctly and not backwards.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!