Hello all,
2 days ago I purchased a P64 ($148 out the door). I had been debating between it and a pa63, but after I found this website I had all the info that I needed and I believe I made a good choice.
One thing I like better about the p64 as compared to the pa-63 is the magazine release position. the pa-63's mag release is a bit of a jump from my thumb forcing me to twist my wrist thus taking the barrel off the target, and since it doesn't drop free (same as p64) I have to use both hands, but on the p64 I can use my non shooting hand to release the mag and simultaneously remove it without loosing my aim.
I also have a question, I noticed that you can cock the hammer and drop the safety (but not all the way to the red dot) and it gives you free trigger movement (won't fire) with the hammer still cocked. Is this a safe way to travel?
oh and my p64 is a 1976 model with a triangle hammer.
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
Trent,
I,m new to the P-64 but love em. I,m not sure if thats safe, but I,m sure someone on this board will have the answer.
I,m new to the P-64 but love em. I,m not sure if thats safe, but I,m sure someone on this board will have the answer.
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
Welcome aboard. P-64s need a thorough cleaning when first received from a distributor. The safety "innards" especially. When functioning properly, the safety will have two distinct positions, up for fire, red dot exposed, and down for safe, red dot covered. You can carry one in the chamber safely with the safety on. The hammer will automatically fall into "decock" position,( unable to strike the firing pin) when the safety is engaged or in the down position. From this condition, you can push up safety and cock and fire single action, or fire straight-away, in double action, which is quite heavy on the P-64 by design. No-one is accidentally shot using this routine. When carrying the P-64 with one in and the safety on, you can get off a shot quickly if you have to, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MEAN TO DO IT. For police and military personnel who do a lot of guard duty in Eastern Europe, this is a good thing!
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
Thanks for the info,
as for the DA trigger, I already soaked the spring in cleaner for a while and it seemed to have little effect, I'm going to take it to the range today and see if I can loosen it up any. but as it stands now I can't realistically use double action in a defense situation since it is far too heavy; which isn't that much of a problem, cocking the hammer is not much trouble at all.
I also have no intention to change out the spring for a lighter one, the single action pull is extremely good and I wouldn't want to lighten it up any more for fear of misfires
as for the DA trigger, I already soaked the spring in cleaner for a while and it seemed to have little effect, I'm going to take it to the range today and see if I can loosen it up any. but as it stands now I can't realistically use double action in a defense situation since it is far too heavy; which isn't that much of a problem, cocking the hammer is not much trouble at all.
I also have no intention to change out the spring for a lighter one, the single action pull is extremely good and I wouldn't want to lighten it up any more for fear of misfires
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
Trent ... if you like the SA like it is, that is fine, but the weight of the trigger pull in SA has virtually nothing to do with force of the firing pin on the primer. This is the case because in SA, the mainspring (that propels the hammer) is already fully compressed. Like I said, if you like it as is, that is great, but I wanted to let you know that if reliability of ignition was your concern, that it doesn't need to be. Along those lines, there are other problems that happen long before primiers fail to ignite ... if you use a 14# or even a 16# mainspring in some p64s, the magazine catch can be moved backwards during recoil ... ejecting the mag 
... but even at this altogether too light a configuration of mainspring, the primers still ignite 100% in my experience. Using a 18, 19 or 20 lb mainspring would put you so far from a FTI that you couldn't even see it from there 
Take care and keep your P64 the way YOU want it!
Saands
... but even at this altogether too light a configuration of mainspring, the primers still ignite 100% in my experience. Using a 18, 19 or 20 lb mainspring would put you so far from a FTI that you couldn't even see it from there Take care and keep your P64 the way YOU want it!
Saands
Last edited by saands on March 4th, 2007, 7:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
New owner, observations for perspective buyers
thanks, that was really usefull info.
aparantly though when I wrote that last thing I didn't choose my words correctly, My main concern was not of misfires but accidentally firing the gun while it is in single action from the trigger pull being too light.
aparantly though when I wrote that last thing I didn't choose my words correctly, My main concern was not of misfires but accidentally firing the gun while it is in single action from the trigger pull being too light.