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P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 2:50 pm
by rjsixgun
OK guys heres a question for ya..........
can anyone give me a side-by-side comparison between the polish P64 and the Hungarian PA-63? pros and cons of both and maybe some side by side pics????

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 5:05 pm
by normsutton
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The pa-63 is bigger & lighter the mag release is a button on the side of the frame the mags are for the 380 so only fire 95 grn 9x18 bullets in it or it will jam.

THE stock p-64 will shoot any 9x18 bullet but it was made for the 95 grn. 9x18 and anything over a 95 grn. bullet kicks like hell mag release is on the bottom.

NORM

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 5:17 pm
by himmel
From what i heard, all other things being equal the Pa-63 will have more felt recoil because the alloy frame makes it lighter--is that right Norm?

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 5:28 pm
by normsutton
RB

I can't tell the differance i'm only 5'2" with small hands nether one bothers me

NORM

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 6:18 pm
by himmel
It just occurred to me--the Pa 63 has an alloy frame, but there's more of it than for the P64, the 63 frame has a backstrap and is bigger--so maybe there wouldn't be much difference there...

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 8:35 pm
by rjsixgun
how hard is it to work the P64's mag release?

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 9:53 pm
by b52stan
RJ,
The mag release works just fine. The P-64 is a high quality milled steel product, which will outshoot and outlast the stamped alloy PA-63.

Only reason the CZAK(P-64) is so cheap is because of the bad DA trigger pull, which can be remedied with a cheap spring change, or minimized with repeated use.

Sting problems have been isolated to the poorly made thumbrest grip that was a product of import restrictions. If you have one of those, just buy a set of ZEE grips for a very few bucks, and enjoy this little bargain.

Hope this helps,
Stan

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 15th, 2006, 6:57 am
by papabear
+1 with b52stan,


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Zee's grips.

Papabear

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 15th, 2006, 7:41 am
by rjsixgun
OK you guys are selling me on the P-64!!!!! but I still got some questions...........

I don't see a slide release on the P-64? how do you load it after a mag change? does the slide lock back on the last shot and if so how do you release it?

The safety?? is it a hammer drop? and once you drop the hammer can it be carried with the safety off like a CZ-82 or must you carry with the safety on????

Yes I am thinking about the P-64 as an everyday carry gun.....anyone have an opinion on that??? pros and cons???

Thanks for answering all my questions guys I really appreciate the help your giving me

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 16th, 2006, 5:13 am
by normsutton
does the slide lock back on the last shot and if so how do you release it?

YES AFTER YOU PUT NEW MAG IN PULL BACK ON SLIDE THEN RELEASE

must you carry with the safety on????

IF YOU HAVE ONE IN THE PIPE YES IT'S A SAFETY

I am thinking about the P-64 as an everyday carry gun

A LOT OF MEMBERS CARRY THEIRS

MOST OF YOUR QUESTION'S HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED ON THIS FORUM


SORRY FOR CAPS
NORM

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 16th, 2006, 10:04 pm
by abwehr
Guys, I have been really busy laterly and not able to check the Forum as often as I like, but this has been a good thread. As to the PA-63, I feel it is a good pistol too, but as "b52stan" stated, the P-64 has a milled steel frame and will last longer! I am not a big fan of alloy receivers or polymer receivers, but I do own some. As I have stated before, the P-64 is one of the best concealment pistols I know of for the price! I honestly feel, this has been a "sleeper" pistol because of the price.

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 16th, 2006, 11:30 pm
by rjsixgun
OK!! I'm pretty much sold on the P-64 as a carry gun with a few mods

-Change the hammer spring to a walter ppk spring
-if I get the finger rest grips change them for Zee's grips
-I'll probably wrap the grip with a rubber tube (I did that to my CZ-82 to aid in grip'n the gun with no bulk.
-maybe a clipdraw clip, so I can just clip-it in my pants so I wont need a holster

any other little tips I need to know?? or does that cover it all?
maybe a link for extra mags would help

Thanks Guys you really know your P-64's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 17th, 2006, 3:09 pm
by amd6547
It is perfectly safe to carry the P64 fully loaded (including the chamber) hammer down without applying the safety. In fact, when I do carry my P64 for CCW, that is how I carry.

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 17th, 2006, 4:51 pm
by bzinggg
I, on the other hand, believe you should always engage the safety when carrying with a round in.

P64 VS PA-63

Posted: September 17th, 2006, 5:53 pm
by papabear
+1 with bzinggg, "SAFEYT FIRST!!! 8-)