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Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 8:00 pm
by cracker60
I bought a P-64 today. When I fire the gun the safety drops to the safe position even time I fire the gun. The safety "snicks" into place and feels like it ought to stay in place, but every time I fire the gun, it puts itself on the safe position. I've tried racking the slide rapidly to get the same result but it wont do it. Whats up with that? BTW this is my first post - hello to all. I finally get my P-64 and its a dud. It kinda bites.. 
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 8:19 pm
by protector
Welcome cracker60,sounds like a broken safety detent spring, or the gun needs a extra good cleaning,as these have a lot of cosmoline residue in them,hang in there Norm Sutton will offer you advice as well as other members,just be patient it will be worth it when you get it worked out!

Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 8:56 pm
by cracker60
protector wrote:Welcome cracker60,sounds like a broken safety detent spring, or the gun needs a extra good cleaning,as these have a lot of cosmoline residue in them,hang in there Norm Sutton will offer you advice as well as other members,just be patient it will be worth it when you get it worked out!

Thanks for your reply protector. I knew someone would reply soon, there are a lot of knowledgeable people out there. Ill get it fixed, I just know it! ;D
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 9:11 pm
by blinddog
Hello!! I had the same problem with one of mine. I took the safety out of the slide and found that the safety detent was rounded off. Ya gotta be careful taking it all apart. Springs hide. do it in a plastic bag big enough to work in. I believe Norm Sutton has a diagram in the sticky part that shows how to remove everything. If the detent is rounded all you have to do is take some fine grit sand paper and grind it to a point, but not too sharp of one. Put her back together and see if that doesnt take care of your problem. P.S. clean it real good with some brake clean or something else then lube it real good.
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 5:10 am
by normsutton
cracker60
download this manual itis a step by step Disassmebly/Reassembly
http://p64.proboards67.com/index.cgi?bo ... hread=1537
you can take a look at this tread too
http://p64.proboards67.com/index.cgi?bo ... hread=2109
NORM
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 11:35 am
by cracker60
I just ordered a Walther PPK safety plunger and spring from Numrich and a new hammer and recoil springs from Wolff. The safety plunger is nicely rounded off to almost a flat. I think I am a victim of some bubba gunsmith >:(as the rest of the parts look fairly unworn. Thanks for the help everyone! I'll give a report when I get it all together. :-*
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 12:21 pm
by protector
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 1:20 pm
by cracker60
Thanks, but I actually went there first and they wanted $12.50 to ship a spring and plunger! I discovered elsewhere on the board the the spring and plunger from a Walther PP will work. I got the plunger and spring for $10.55 shipped from Numrich, far better the $21.50 that tnguns wanted.
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 27th, 2008, 9:41 pm
by blinddog
Well, cracker, did that get your problem fixed? Let us know something, OK.
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 30th, 2008, 11:10 pm
by cracker60
I ended up chucking the original detent plunger in a Dremel tool and grinding a point on it and reusing the spring as well. The Parts I got from Numrich wouldn't work. I installed a 17lb hammer spring and will install a 22lb recoil spring when I get a chance next week. I believe the original plunger should be hardened

, I will see how it holds up. I will let you know how every thing works when I get back to the range in a couple of weeks. ;D
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 7:21 am
by normsutton
cracker60
sorry about the parts from Numrich
to harden the pin heat up till cheery red drop in oil don't care what kind of oil you can even use cold water
NORM
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 1:08 pm
by stibnite
cracker60 wrote:The Parts I got from Numrich wouldn't work.
How would they not work, didn't fit?
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 2:43 pm
by cracker60
stibnite wrote:
cracker60 wrote:The Parts I got from Numrich wouldn't work.
How would they not work, didn't fit?
The plunger seemed to be somewhat larger in OD than the original, I couldn't get it to slide inside the hole. It was a lot shorter as well. I didn't feel like messing around with it so I just reused what I had. Should have done that in the first place I guess. >:(
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 8:46 pm
by stibnite
That's kind of strange, someone on this board posted that the parts fit perfect... I think it's in the sticky book. Maybe they sent you something wrong?
Anyhoo, just curious about the Walther parts. I had the same problem as you did with the originals, put a little point on my plunger too but had to get a stouter spring later. That worked in the end.
Safety drops every time gun is fired.
Posted: August 31st, 2008, 9:59 pm
by blinddog
If you didn't take too much of the plunger making it too short, you should be back in the ball game. You should have sent pics we all love pics. Follow Norms instructions on hardening and all is well. Good Luck!!!!
