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PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 4:42 pm
by fritzhund
I have posted in other threads about this gun, but as not wanting to be all over the board I am starting a new thread.

I just picked up what I believed to be a PA-63 in 9mm Short.

After asking Norm and some of the others about it I am not so sure what it really is. Is this a rare bird? Norm has stated that he did not believe that the PA-63 was made in 9mm Short. I have never seen one either, but I am no expert.

It is marked Cal. 9mm SHORT PA-63 AP9 Made by FEG HUNGARY.

The s/n is matching on the frame and slide.

The gun is totally original and does not look to have been modified in any way.

The barrel is marked 9mm SHORT

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PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 5:18 pm
by donnerwetter58
www.Makarov.com has a bit of info on your gun.
The FEG AP9 is the .380ACP version of the two tone PA-63.
9mm short or 9mm kurtz is .380ACP as we know it.

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 6:30 pm
by normsutton
here are mine


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there may be more Variations out ther

NORM

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 6:50 pm
by fritzhund
Thanks,

You were right:

Quoted from Makarov.com

FEG AP9


Imported by Century International Arms of St. Albans, VT, the AP9 is a commercial .380 ACP version of the PA-63 service pistol, with the same white alloy frame and two-tone appearance.


In general, the AP9 shares the same strength and weaknesses of the Walther PP/PPK pistols. Its most obvious drawback is a very heavy double-action trigger pull. The magazine release is located just below the slide at the front of the grip, rather than behind the trigger guard. As a result, the empty magazine protrudes 1/8 of an inch from the bottom of the grip instead of smoothly ejecting.


Despite a very heavy double-action first shot, the AP9 test-fired with surprising accuracy. One offhand group, using Federal 95-grain FMJ, placed five shots in a tiny 1.4-inch pattern; and a 50-foot group placed within an incredibly small 1.7-inch pattern. That was, however, after a first shot, fired double-action, had landed some 2 1/2 inches away from the point of aim. The four remaining shots, all single action, were fired at the first bullet hole.


The AP9 is a good .380-caliber pistol that can be purchased for much less than any Walther on the market.

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I still however wonder why this pistol is stamped with both model numbers :o

fritzhund

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 7:18 pm
by normsutton
fritzhund

the wolff springs will fit it
http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/FegNF.html

NORM

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 7:44 pm
by fritzhund
Thanks again Norm,

I have not fired it yet, but the DA trigger pull is surprisingly light.

If the recoil is a problem I'll be sure to up the recoil spring. I'm going to leave the mainspring alone.

I still want to find a factory left flat grip. I just don't like thumbrest grips on any gun :(

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 6th, 2008, 10:04 pm
by carguy
Not to redirect this thread but I have a question...Century International, St. Albans, VT...is that the Century International now in Delray Beach, Florida???

Do they warehouse, import or do anything in Vermont any longer?

I see so many guns stamped with their name and I never realized or cared until recently that they were so close by.

I'm up there about one a quarter and wanted to find them if they were still in exsistance...it seems not.

PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 7th, 2008, 9:31 pm
by fritzhund
;)

Just wanted to note that the mystery pistol is slide marked:

C.A.I ST. ALB. VT

But I guess most of you know that......

fritzhund

Re: PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: August 25th, 2013, 9:24 am
by frugalguy
I've got the exact same pistol. I bought some Russian-made .380 ACP for it, but haven't tried it, yet.
Did you ever get around to shooting that?

Re: PA-63 9mm Short AP9?

Posted: January 11th, 2014, 4:10 pm
by magnum42069
Only thing I don't love about my pa63 is the small extractor but it appears to work. I can put every shot on a six inch plate at 100ft. Really!