Sgt P. wrote:Paulski,
You must live in the tough part of Portland. ::) My sister lives over in Beaverton and they carry .45acp compacts.

But hey you gotta carry what you enjoy, right

Sgt P.
I live in North Portland, 97217...
Not the roughest part... But the roughest part starts in the next neighborhood to the east. About 50% of the gang shootings in Oregon occur not to far from me. Most of the rest are toward Gresham down Burnside.
Less than 2 months ago, I drove into a gas station seconds after a drive-buy.
With the poor economy, crime has risen considerably.
Your sister has to worry about latino gangs.
We have good ol' "thug gangstas".
I have a bunch that hang out down the street (In the middle of the street ???) Jumping around yelling N*** this & N*** that.
Our households have an unspoken understanding.
Harley, our German Shepherd is the only one who vocally reinforces it on a regular basis.
I carry a G-17 with 18rds of Extreme Shock AFR. & the Glock clip.
I want to carry my P-64, but 1 time recently at the range, the trigger failed to engage the first pull.
I think I need to completely disassemble it & steel wool everything. I recently re-blued it & the innards got some rust on them.
The Glock, as we all know, is an AK-47 of pistols. It NEVER fails, unless you limp-wrist it.
The cool part is that "gangstas" rarely have any range time, thus no skill & tweekers have usually sold their guns for meth.
Still I would rather live in "rougher" areas than superficial "high-class" areas with

Neighborhood Associations

& 16 year olds driving $60,000 cars.
I lived in Multnomah village once & couldn't stand it.
The Saiga-12 is just my SHTF AK chambered in 12 gauge streetsweeper. ;D
I would highly recommend buying the S-12 for when ammo is tight, as you can always find 12 gauge to shoot.
Also buy it before they get banned by the current administration.
It is like the P-64 in the aspect that you can modify it to make it better.
Infact to get the pistol grip, you must convert it. or pay $300.00+ over the $570.00 price, for one that has been converted/restored by someone else due to import banns on non-sporting configuration long guns.
It is kinda like legos for guns ;D
That forum is full of gunsmiths that can help you through it & help you to keep it 922r compliant so the ATF doesn't get on you.