I have posted in other threads about this gun, but as not wanting to be all over the board I am starting a new thread.
I just picked up what I believed to be a PA-63 in 9mm Short.
After asking Norm and some of the others about it I am not so sure what it really is. Is this a rare bird? Norm has stated that he did not believe that the PA-63 was made in 9mm Short. I have never seen one either, but I am no expert.
It is marked Cal. 9mm SHORT PA-63 AP9 Made by FEG HUNGARY.
The s/n is matching on the frame and slide.
The gun is totally original and does not look to have been modified in any way.
The barrel is marked 9mm SHORT
PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
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PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
www.Makarov.com has a bit of info on your gun.
The FEG AP9 is the .380ACP version of the two tone PA-63.
9mm short or 9mm kurtz is .380ACP as we know it.
The FEG AP9 is the .380ACP version of the two tone PA-63.
9mm short or 9mm kurtz is .380ACP as we know it.
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here are mine
there may be more Variations out ther
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there may be more Variations out ther
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Thanks,
You were right:
Quoted from Makarov.com
FEG AP9
Imported by Century International Arms of St. Albans, VT, the AP9 is a commercial .380 ACP version of the PA-63 service pistol, with the same white alloy frame and two-tone appearance.
In general, the AP9 shares the same strength and weaknesses of the Walther PP/PPK pistols. Its most obvious drawback is a very heavy double-action trigger pull. The magazine release is located just below the slide at the front of the grip, rather than behind the trigger guard. As a result, the empty magazine protrudes 1/8 of an inch from the bottom of the grip instead of smoothly ejecting.
Despite a very heavy double-action first shot, the AP9 test-fired with surprising accuracy. One offhand group, using Federal 95-grain FMJ, placed five shots in a tiny 1.4-inch pattern; and a 50-foot group placed within an incredibly small 1.7-inch pattern. That was, however, after a first shot, fired double-action, had landed some 2 1/2 inches away from the point of aim. The four remaining shots, all single action, were fired at the first bullet hole.
The AP9 is a good .380-caliber pistol that can be purchased for much less than any Walther on the market.
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I still however wonder why this pistol is stamped with both model numbers
fritzhund
You were right:
Quoted from Makarov.com
FEG AP9
Imported by Century International Arms of St. Albans, VT, the AP9 is a commercial .380 ACP version of the PA-63 service pistol, with the same white alloy frame and two-tone appearance.
In general, the AP9 shares the same strength and weaknesses of the Walther PP/PPK pistols. Its most obvious drawback is a very heavy double-action trigger pull. The magazine release is located just below the slide at the front of the grip, rather than behind the trigger guard. As a result, the empty magazine protrudes 1/8 of an inch from the bottom of the grip instead of smoothly ejecting.
Despite a very heavy double-action first shot, the AP9 test-fired with surprising accuracy. One offhand group, using Federal 95-grain FMJ, placed five shots in a tiny 1.4-inch pattern; and a 50-foot group placed within an incredibly small 1.7-inch pattern. That was, however, after a first shot, fired double-action, had landed some 2 1/2 inches away from the point of aim. The four remaining shots, all single action, were fired at the first bullet hole.
The AP9 is a good .380-caliber pistol that can be purchased for much less than any Walther on the market.
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I still however wonder why this pistol is stamped with both model numbers
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Thanks again Norm,
I have not fired it yet, but the DA trigger pull is surprisingly light.
If the recoil is a problem I'll be sure to up the recoil spring. I'm going to leave the mainspring alone.
I still want to find a factory left flat grip. I just don't like thumbrest grips on any gun
I have not fired it yet, but the DA trigger pull is surprisingly light.
If the recoil is a problem I'll be sure to up the recoil spring. I'm going to leave the mainspring alone.
I still want to find a factory left flat grip. I just don't like thumbrest grips on any gun
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PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
Not to redirect this thread but I have a question...Century International, St. Albans, VT...is that the Century International now in Delray Beach, Florida???
Do they warehouse, import or do anything in Vermont any longer?
I see so many guns stamped with their name and I never realized or cared until recently that they were so close by.
I'm up there about one a quarter and wanted to find them if they were still in exsistance...it seems not.
Do they warehouse, import or do anything in Vermont any longer?
I see so many guns stamped with their name and I never realized or cared until recently that they were so close by.
I'm up there about one a quarter and wanted to find them if they were still in exsistance...it seems not.
PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
Just wanted to note that the mystery pistol is slide marked:
C.A.I ST. ALB. VT
But I guess most of you know that......
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Re: PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
I've got the exact same pistol. I bought some Russian-made .380 ACP for it, but haven't tried it, yet.
Did you ever get around to shooting that?
Did you ever get around to shooting that?
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Re: PA-63 9mm Short AP9?
Only thing I don't love about my pa63 is the small extractor but it appears to work. I can put every shot on a six inch plate at 100ft. Really!